Lauren Good: Really?

Zoe Schiffer: Yes.

Lauren Good: I didn't have that experience on Caltrain.

Zoe Schiffer: Well, you weren't reading infinite joke On Caltrain, were you just now? That was my catfishing technique.

Lauren Good: What was your worst ride, Mike?

Michael Calore: There was a time in the early 2000s when I was living in the Sunset District of San Francisco. Yes, there are some trains that can bring you to the city, but they take an hour. And this was premobile technology, so we had Discman Walkman players, portable CD players, so you'd have to bring a little book of CDs. More people will read newspapers. I remember one day-

Zoe Schiffer: Looks really romantic.

Lauren Good: I was just going to say, for people listening who don't remember this time, it was a locomotive train and you cranked the discman by hand.

Zoe Schiffer: This was 200 BC.

Michael Calore: I just remember that you had to carry a lot of luggage for your commute. And the new Harry Potter book comes out, and everyone on the train is reading this 10-pound, thick, hardcover Harry Potter book at the same time and talking about it. Lauren, you need to tell us your bad trip story.

Lauren Good: There was a time on the East Coast when I was traveling on the Metro North train, and then once I got to New York City, I had to get on the subway and go all over the city.

Michael Calore: Two trains. full. Too many people pushing.

Lauren Good: Yes. A lot of people read the Wall Street Journal.

Zoe Schiffer: say no more.

Lauren Good: It was long, and it sucked the life out of me. Although the pandemic was not a good thing, it is a good thing that none of us had to go back to the office now. Is our work done? Welcome to WIRED's Uncanny Valley, a show about the people, power and influence of Silicon Valley, hosted by me, senior writer Lauren Good, and my co-hosts.

Michael Calore: I'm Michael Calor, director of consumer technology and culture at WIRED.

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