Lauren Good: I don't remember that.
Zoe Schiffer: I think he did.
Michael Calore: I don't know why everyone is looking at me.
Lauren Good: Yes. Mike, what's your recommendation?
Michael Calore: Mine is actually weirdly connected to this unboxing we just did, because I want to recommend spices. So everyone has something they like to add to their food. I have a friend who puts Jordanian za'atar on everything. I have a friend who likes really expensive, fancy Meyer Lemon olive oil, which costs $25 a bottle, and he puts it on his breakfast every day. Maybe there is some chilli which…
Zoe Schiffer: Oh, my god. I was just going to say.
Michael Calore: Right, because chilli crisps can cost Rs 20.
Zoe Schiffer: so expensive.
Michael Calore: so expensive. So just get a year's supply of them. You know they will use it. And this is completely worth considering. It shows that you care about them, that you have enough insight into their life as a person that you know them well enough to know how to make them happy. So yes, it is…
Zoe Schiffer: This is very good.
Michael Calore: If you can't decide, I don't know what their size is. I don't know whether he has read this book or not. I don't know if they'll actually use it, get them something that you know they like and you know they'll use.
Zoe Schiffer: This is very good. This is great, because it is difficult to find yourself. I struggle with this problem because both my brother and my mother are chefs. So they'll come home, they'll give me these very expensive gifts, for example, Momofuku chili crisps, and then I'll say, “Okay, I'm totally addicted to this. I've needed this food all the time my whole life.” ” And then I go to buy it, and I'm like, “$18 for this little…” No, I can't buy.
Lauren Good: In fact, it's my favorite topping. Momofuku Chili Crisp.
Zoe Schiffer: You can apply it on everything.
Michael Calore: Have you tried Fly By Zing?
Lauren Good: No.
Zoe Schiffer: Oh, this is really good too. This is Sichuan pepper.
Michael Calore: very nice.
Zoe Schiffer: Really delicious.
Lauren Good: This is great God, I feel like I literally recommended Snake Oil and everyone said, “Oh, Mike. Yes. Thank you.” now I'm hungry.
Michael Calore: Okay, that's our show today. We will be back in the new year. thanks for listening uncanny valleyIf you liked what you heard today, be sure to follow our show and rate it on your podcast app of choice. If you wish to contact us with any questions, comments or suggestions, you can write to us here uncannyvalley@wired.comToday's show is produced by Kyana Moghadam. Amar Lal mixed this episode at Macrosound. Jordan Bell is our executive producer. Chris Bannon is the head of global audio at Condé Nast.